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Power Versus Control

November 19, 20253 min read

How Knowing the Difference Changes Everything

In Episode 63 of the Collective Perspective Podcast, hosts Jeff Aldrich and Travis Eadens dig into a topic that affects every one of us — power versus control. The two may look similar on the surface, but as Jeff and Travis reveal, they come from very different places inside us, and they shape how we lead, love, parent, and show up in the world.

Here is a summary of the main concepts discussed on this episode:

Where Real Strength Comes From

Jeff opens the episode with a grounding reminder: America isn’t held together by trending topics. It's strengthened by everyday people doing meaningful work. Veterans, tradespeople, volunteers, neighbors … these are the people exercising real power, the kind rooted in service, not dominance.

This sets the stage for a deep dive into how power, when understood correctly, connects people, and how control often pushes them apart.

Personal Stories That Reveal the Difference

Jeff talks about how he feels powerful when he’s speaking on topics he’s passionate about, like healthcare. His power comes from knowledge and confidence, not force.

Travis brings in the parenting perspective and how guiding his kids requires authority, yes, but also the willingness to loosen his grip so they can grow. That balance between stepping in and stepping back is where the true lessons live.

Power is Calm. Control is Fear.

One of the standout moments in this episode is Travis’s story about teaching sound engineering to teens. He shares how students respond more to calm confidence than to rigid control. That sparked a bigger conversation about how power attracts while control constricts.

Together, Jeff and Travis unpack how control often emerges from fear — fear of change, fear of being wrong, fear of losing influence. They draw connections to society, leadership, and policy, exploring how fear-based responses can lead to overcorrections that harm more than they help.

Letting Go Without Losing Yourself

The episode takes an emotional turn when Travis opens up about his child leaving for college. It’s a moment that forces him to release control while maintaining power through love, communication, and presence. It’s one of the most human illustrations of the difference between the two.

Final Thoughts: A Call to Rethink What You Hold On To

Jeff and Travis wrap up by inviting listeners to reflect on where they're exercising healthy power—and where control might be taking the wheel. The message is simple but powerful:

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Understanding The Impact of Power and Control on Leadership and Society

In this episode of the Collective Perspective Podcast, hosts Jeff and Travis discuss the complex dynamics between power and control. This episode personal anecdotes, societal implications, and the nuances of leadership. Topics include the difference between feeling powerful and exercising control, the impact of fear on societal regulation, and the balance between authority and compassion.

The conversation is enriched with thoughtful insights on parenting, workplace dynamics, and societal overcorrection in response to fear. Join Jeff and Travis as they explore how true power often arises from within, marked by clarity, patience, and values, rather than control driven by fear and ego.

00:00 Introduction: What Makes America Stronger

00:26 Welcome Back to the Podcast

00:35 Power vs. Control: A Deep Dive

01:33 Personal Experiences with Power and Control

06:00 Leadership and Control in Different Contexts

10:31 Society's Reaction to Fear and Control

20:30 Releasing Control to Find Peace

24:02 Parenting and Letting Go

27:24 Conclusion: The Paradox of Tolerance

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Introducing the Host

Sandra D. Johnson, MHSC, CTP

Sandra D. Johnson is a Counselor, Life Coach, Author, Resource Developer, and Podcaster who focuses on the non-clinical counseling and emotional health areas of our overall mental wellbeing. Sandra founded Madisel Group in 2017 which stands for Making A Difference In Someone Else’s Life.

Madisel Group provides Family ReDirect services to youth and families of Duval County Teen Court, individuals, and other family units. Sandra provides encouragement and motivational talks to young people, parents, and corporate groups in our surrounding neighborhoods community.

Sandra is a Certified Mental Health Coach, Certified Trauma Professional, and Youth Mental Health First Aid provider. She was featured in Shout Out Altanta and is also a member of the VitalityXchange Collective.

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